ccmhkg

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原帖由 chefung 於 2009-6-7 10:17 AM 發表


That is the problem of "teachers"

HK govt provides the syllabus, the way of teaching is determined by the front-end teachers.
I won't blame HK govt on that. That's the tradition of Chinese society. It's not easy to change in one tide.That is built-in in the blood of our parents and their ancestors.

Anyway, I do buy the spoon-feeding policy even it's the case.
Certain amount of spoon feeding is need to feed people knowledge
Even you are creative, without basic knowledge, nothing one can do.

Research = knowledge + creativity + hardworking + luck

100% agree

wannabe

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原帖由 chefung 於 2009-6-7 10:12 AM 發表

It is like

Imagine, one outsider ( non-related major ), they can still do those things, may not be as good/efficient as those major students
They can still do that job, communciations skill/soci ...

nope ... i can write up a storm in marketing/PR exam but i don't think i can handle the actual jobs well
not only do you have to know the basic things from the book, you have to be creative and understand the market and customers' need, what's the latest trend etc ... not easy at all, kid!

ccmhkg

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原帖由 wannabe 於 2009-6-7 10:25 AM 發表



nope ... i can write up a storm in marketing/PR exam but i don't think i can handle the actual jobs well
not only do you have to know the basic things from the book, you have to be creative an ...

Sounds like a big sister :smile_45:

wannabe

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原帖由 lovevk 於 2009-6-7 10:11 AM 發表


bebebebe:smile_24::smile_24:
好掛住你呀:smile_24:
尋日同你傾傾下, 屎左呀....discuss.....:smile_19:

好似糸C左 ... 不過我唔知C左幾耐
當上唔到個時
我好似就走左去做其他野跟手就同個妹出埋街
宜家我一邊上網一邊包緊 gift 同寫 birthday card 比我個妹因為聽日佢生日
不過一陣我都就出去 ... 揾位等睇法網

chefung

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原帖由 wannabe 於 2009-6-7 10:25 AM 發表



nope ... i can write up a storm in marketing/PR exam but i don't think i can handle the actual jobs well
not only do you have to know the basic things from the book, you have to be creative an ...

I won't say it's easy, nothing is easy if you want to do well

But the point is, in academic words, the entry barrier for marketing is low. What the qualities you listed can be acquired not only from marketing major. Its like abilities based but not really a knowledge based thing.

Imagine, I guess I can do marketing/business but not good for sure, it's because I am not good at verbal communication but some one else with that can do much better than me even he/she is bullshit major.

Imagine again, you do my previous research job, can you do it even in not-so-good way?

That's the entry barrier which people need to study the ass off in their undergrad for that.

Let me restate my point

I am not talking whether your jobs or others business ones are easy or not

I am talking those things requires more on abilities instead of knowledge and those business major should be like minor but not major. People with those major, may have a start-off advantage than others but it's not crucial to me.

[ 本帖最後由 chefung 於 2009-6-7 10:35 AM 編輯 ]

-Leo-

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原帖由 ccmhkg 於 2009-6-7 09:57 AM 發表


I agreed that learning should be in a smart approach but not the "read die book" style lor LOL

book just should you the direction, book is not the ture,
like my finger should you way of the road, but the finger is not the road

ccmhkg

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原帖由 wannabe 於 2009-6-7 10:27 AM 發表


好似糸C左 ... 不過我唔知C左幾耐
當上唔到個時
我好似就走左去做其他野跟手就同個妹出埋街
宜家我一邊上網一邊包緊 gift 同寫 birthday card 比我個妹因為聽日佢生日
不過一陣我都就出去 ... 揾位等睇法網

我睇法拉

chefung

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原帖由 -Leo- 於 2009-6-7 10:30 AM 發表

book just should you the direction, book is not the ture,
like my finger should you way of the road, but the finger is not the road

You meant...shoot? instead of "should"?

wannabe

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原帖由 chefung 於 2009-6-7 10:17 AM 發表


That is the problem of "teachers"

HK govt provides the syllabus, the way of teaching is determined by the front-end teachers.
I won't blame HK govt on that. That's the tradition of Chinese soc ...

c'mon ... if the education bureau can reform its current system and if student's future does not hinge on the public exam ONLY, i don't the teachers would not spoon-feed our youth :smile_22:

-Leo-

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原帖由 chefung 於 2009-6-7 10:32 AM 發表

You meant...shoot? instead of "should"?

sorry is show, show you the direction