go to Macau for fast food??
What kind of fast food?? chicks ??:smile_30:

Back to the old topics
Okay, fine, I agree with you if you define subjective in that way

However, I do believe there is law of nature, which is objective.
The "tao"

Actually my name is Don Juan. 111 is just meanless words that add after my name, since someone already used may name :')

can you reali afford this considering you are not feeling well atm? i doubt

we welcome u in anytime...now would be a good time..
aww...u can c me in real person..more interaction..:smile_47:

wat u suggesting?

What is the law of nature? The physics?? I also believe that they are relative objective.
But what is space and time that are the basis of physics. Are these objective reality, or just our form of conceiving things??
WE cannot without space and time, but is there any thing that can be infinite? Scientists said time and space also has a beginning, then what is it?
I rather think that the law of nature is the unchanging way of our conception on the nature. It cannot be isolated from our conception.

So from a philosophical point of view, I am a idealist (in contast to realism)

that's y i need to heal quickly..for fast food..:smile_40:

Not physics
Physics is to find the truth of the law of nature.
We are trying to probe, to guess, to test, to find what the law of nature

The law of nature itself exists eternally
Or say, the "real" physical law, not the one we study.

For you particular one, it's just "OUR" view on the space and time. It can be right or wrong
No matter it's correct or not, the "tao" - law of nature exists but we just can't find it
Or you would say, whatever language we describe it ( math, english , weird symbol, marsian, whatever ), it's subjective ( I agree)

Even we don't probe/test/interact with the nature, the law of nature still exists although this, law of nature, are made up from our minds...
Hard for me to describe precisely...

[ 本帖最後由 chefung 於 2009-4-9 04:15 PM 編輯 ]

i wont forget anyone, except you :smile_38:
coz you prefer to see landscapes, but not me